When I say "everybody" knows "its a mess," I mean "everybody" and most agree that the failures in the ObamaCare program are criminal in scope -- techno misfeasance.

Excepts taken from the videoed discussion below:  

“I’m not being ideological,”  Scarborough said. “These people want to run our health care system, and they want to be the grand organizers of what’s most important to most Americans over the age of 35 or 40. And yet they’re not telling us what’s going wrong with our system that they want to run?”

[Followed by Barnicle, a liberal pundit,  who accused the Administration of lying] 

“They’re lying about it now,” Barnicle said. “They’re not depriving us of information, they are outright lying … about the numbers of who have enrolled, the numbers who have made the process complete, the numbers of people who have actually signed up, a couple others things. The larger point is they keep using the word, ‘unacceptable.’ This is not unacceptable, this is outrageous.”