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Even the Left knows how stupid compromise with ISIS looks. Compromise? Yes. If not, we would be doing all we could to kill this bunch of sociopaths. Thanks SNL for the wake-up call.
Jordan King Abdullah: "They are trying to invent falsely a linkage to a caliphate, link to our history in Islam that has no truth or bearing to our history. ISIS is recruiting deluded young men and women who think this is an Islamic nation."
Question: "U.S. President Barack Obama has caught flak for saying he didn't want to refer to ISIS members as Islamic extremists because their actions are not Islamic."
Jordan King Abdullah: "I think he is right. This is something that has to be understood on a much larger platform. (ISIS) is looking for legitimacy inside of Islam. ... I'm a Muslim, these people (ISIS members) ... are on the fringe of Islam. The barbarity with the way they executed our brave hero (the pilot), I think, shocked the Muslim world, especially Jordanians and people from this region,"
-CNN Interview, 3/1/15
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Conservatives, by their own bigotry and stupidity, unwittingly play right into the hands of ISIS ... declaring they are an 'Islamic state' of 'Muslim extremists.' They buy into the ISIS concept of a holy war, exactly what ISIS needs to recruit. As the President said, they are not Islamists, they are terrorists.
Hitler's ideology was Christian, as were all of the members of the Nazis SS. Should we have called that a war on 'Radical Christianity'? https://coelsblog.wordpress.com/.../nazi-racial-ideology.../
King Abdullah admits that ISIS is "fringe Islam." Obama will not even admit this. Hitler's ideology was no more "Christian" than is our Anonymous Troll. Call it "radical Christianity," if you think think it helps your cause, but please stop pretending that our actions give legitimacy to ISIS. There is nothing that justifies what they do. BTW, did Hitler ever use Christian/biblical doctrine to justify what he did? ISIS, on the other hand, actually quotes from the Koran, teaches its younger recruits to prayer to and worship Allah. When did Hitler do the same from the Christian God. So, Anonymous has only invented an argument that sounds good to him, but has no logical basis in reality, ala anything Karl Marx ever taught.
I'm happy the Allies won WWII - the war on radical Christianity. Yes Hitler did use Christianity for justification. The flag of the Nazi ‘Deutsche Christen’ bears the symbol of the cross. Hitler stated in Mein Kampf and mentioned in many speeches his christian justification:
"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord." - A. Hitler
My comment to your absurd comment was this: "did Hitler ever use Christian/biblical doctrine to justify what he did?" My implied answer was and is "No."
So, before I write a rebuttal to the immedate-above comment, answer this question: Did Hitler's appeal to Christianity include an reference to the actual teachings of Christ as recorded in the biblical text, and, if so, give the biblical references. I already know you can't do this, but go ahead and give it one of your best "I intend to deceive the read" tries. Let's see how creative you really are.
Secondly, as to your charge that Hitler used the image of Christ's cross on his flag, as part of his justification for what he was doing: Hitler's cross is called The Iron Cross, and, it came from the Kingdom of Prussia, 1813. It is not a religious symbol, but, rather, a military symbol.
Third, in your referenced article, the term "creationist" is used to refer to Hitler's proclamation defending his Aryan race. This is a preposterous use of the term, an effort on your part to equate "creationism" of today with that of Hitler's point of view. They were not similar terms as to usage. In making the connection, you are trying the old "guilt by association" game. "Creationism" in today's market of ideas, is all about creation. Hitler's supposed "creationism" was all about the Aryan ethnicity, of which Christ, himself, was not a member.
In the future, either use wording that is identical to present day Christian claims, or expect to see your articles deleted without comment.
“My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly, it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people. And when I look on my people I see them work and work and toil and labor, and at the end of the week they have only for their wages wretchedness and misery. When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor people are plundered and exposed.”
-- Adolf Hitler, speech in Munich on April 12, 1922
Was this his justification in 1938? And are there any non-German Christians who use the same passage to justify murdering millions of people? Is this what you are saying, that Hitler used Matt 21 to justify the murder of millions, in the name of an Aryan nation, profoundly not Jewish? Are you saying that the Jew, Jesus Christ, supported the genocide of his own people? That he quoted scripture does not mean that he used Christian doctrine to defend his sociopathic behavior.
The Deutsche Christen (German Christians) were a German Protestantism movement aligned towards anti-semetic principles of Nazism. The Deutsche Christen were sympathetic to Hitler's goal of uniting the individual Protestant churches into a single Reich church. The Deutsche Christen was first formed in 1931 and the flag which depicted the Christian cross and the Nazi Swastika was flown during marches and demonstrations by the Nazi SS.
Here are dozens of photos depicting Nazi/Christian symbols: http://www.nobeliefs.com/mementoes.htm
The German Christian movement was created by confidants of Hitler. It was not a movement that birth Hitler. Rather, Hitler birthed this movement, himself. It was an anti-Semitic movement, hardly supported by the Jewish scriptures. The Iron Cross was a military emblem, as I said.
That Hitler came out of a Christian background, is without debate. But his use of Christian symbols and his misuse of scripture aligns themselves with nothing that any Chrisitan understands as "Christian." Certainly, there is no justification in Semitic scripture for anti-Semitic mass murder.
And how do you deal with ideology, misappropriated or not? Do you even have a clue? Well, you combat the evils of false ideology with the true application of that ideology. And that was done, with regard to Hitler's feigned "Christian ideology." Men like Paul Tillich, Karl Barth, Emil Brunner, and Dietrich Bonhoeffer, fought against Hitler's false application of "Christianity." That cannot happen, with Obama. Since he does not admit to the connection between ISIS and its false application of Islam, he cannot combat ISIS on an ideological plain and his brand of "war" against ISIS cannot succeed, because he has no idea at to what ISIS really is.
I agree that Hitler did not use Christianity to recruit as does ISIS. I am not feeding any myth. All of the Middle East knows and admits that ISIS is an Islamic issue. ISIS fighters pray to Allah, five times a day. They study the Koran. They practice the very same violence as did the inventor of Islam, the so-called "Prophet" Muhammad. Walks like a duck, talks like a duck . . . . . .
Of course, your comment is untrue. I am feeding the fact that ISIS is a violent form of Islam which is very different from saying that "ISIS is Islam." How on earth did you get out of high school, with such poor reading skills? Good grief.
Jordan King Abdullah: "They are trying to invent falsely a linkage to a caliphate, link to our history in Islam that has no truth or bearing to our history. ISIS is recruiting deluded young men and women who think this is an Islamic nation."
ReplyDeleteQuestion: "U.S. President Barack Obama has caught flak for saying he didn't want to refer to ISIS members as Islamic extremists because their actions are not Islamic."
Jordan King Abdullah: "I think he is right. This is something that has to be understood on a much larger platform. (ISIS) is looking for legitimacy inside of Islam. ... I'm a Muslim, these people (ISIS members) ... are on the fringe of Islam. The barbarity with the way they executed our brave hero (the pilot), I think, shocked the Muslim world, especially Jordanians and people from this region,"
-CNN Interview, 3/1/15
----
Conservatives, by their own bigotry and stupidity, unwittingly play right into the hands of ISIS ... declaring they are an 'Islamic state' of 'Muslim extremists.' They buy into the ISIS concept of a holy war, exactly what ISIS needs to recruit. As the President said, they are not Islamists, they are terrorists.
Hitler's ideology was Christian, as were all of the members of the Nazis SS. Should we have called that a war on 'Radical Christianity'? https://coelsblog.wordpress.com/.../nazi-racial-ideology.../
King Abdullah admits that ISIS is "fringe Islam." Obama will not even admit this. Hitler's ideology was no more "Christian" than is our Anonymous Troll. Call it "radical Christianity," if you think think it helps your cause, but please stop pretending that our actions give legitimacy to ISIS. There is nothing that justifies what they do. BTW, did Hitler ever use Christian/biblical doctrine to justify what he did? ISIS, on the other hand, actually quotes from the Koran, teaches its younger recruits to prayer to and worship Allah. When did Hitler do the same from the Christian God. So, Anonymous has only invented an argument that sounds good to him, but has no logical basis in reality, ala anything Karl Marx ever taught.
DeleteI'm happy the Allies won WWII - the war on radical Christianity. Yes Hitler did use Christianity for justification. The flag of the Nazi ‘Deutsche Christen’ bears the symbol of the cross. Hitler stated in Mein Kampf and mentioned in many speeches his christian justification:
Deletehttps://coelsblog.wordpress.com/2011/11/08/nazi-racial-ideology-was-religious-creationist-and-opposed-to-darwinism/
"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord." - A. Hitler
http://www.nobeliefs.com/hitler.htm
My comment to your absurd comment was this: "did Hitler ever use Christian/biblical doctrine to justify what he did?" My implied answer was and is "No."
DeleteSo, before I write a rebuttal to the immedate-above comment, answer this question: Did Hitler's appeal to Christianity include an reference to the actual teachings of Christ as recorded in the biblical text, and, if so, give the biblical references. I already know you can't do this, but go ahead and give it one of your best "I intend to deceive the read" tries. Let's see how creative you really are.
Secondly, as to your charge that Hitler used the image of Christ's cross on his flag, as part of his justification for what he was doing: Hitler's cross is called The Iron Cross, and, it came from the Kingdom of Prussia, 1813. It is not a religious symbol, but, rather, a military symbol.
Third, in your referenced article, the term "creationist" is used to refer to Hitler's proclamation defending his Aryan race. This is a preposterous use of the term, an effort on your part to equate "creationism" of today with that of Hitler's point of view. They were not similar terms as to usage. In making the connection, you are trying the old "guilt by association" game. "Creationism" in today's market of ideas, is all about creation. Hitler's supposed "creationism" was all about the Aryan ethnicity, of which Christ, himself, was not a member.
In the future, either use wording that is identical to present day Christian claims, or expect to see your articles deleted without comment.
Hitler citing the episode in Matthew 21:12:
ReplyDelete“My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian
and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord
at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the
Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight
against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with
deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact
that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As
a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have
the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is
anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly, it is
the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty
to my own people. And when I look on my people I see them work and
work and toil and labor, and at the end of the week they have only
for their wages wretchedness and misery. When I go out in the morning
and see these men standing in their queues and look into their
pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very
devil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two
thousand years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor people
are plundered and exposed.”
-- Adolf Hitler, speech in Munich on April 12, 1922
Was this his justification in 1938? And are there any non-German Christians who use the same passage to justify murdering millions of people? Is this what you are saying, that Hitler used Matt 21 to justify the murder of millions, in the name of an Aryan nation, profoundly not Jewish? Are you saying that the Jew, Jesus Christ, supported the genocide of his own people? That he quoted scripture does not mean that he used Christian doctrine to defend his sociopathic behavior.
DeleteWrong again Smithson.
ReplyDeleteThe Deutsche Christen (German Christians) were a German Protestantism movement aligned towards anti-semetic principles of Nazism. The Deutsche Christen were sympathetic to Hitler's goal of uniting the individual Protestant churches into a single Reich church. The Deutsche Christen was first formed in 1931 and the flag which depicted the Christian cross and the Nazi Swastika was flown during marches and demonstrations by the Nazi SS.
Here are dozens of photos depicting Nazi/Christian symbols:
http://www.nobeliefs.com/mementoes.htm
The German Christian movement was created by confidants of Hitler. It was not a movement that birth Hitler. Rather, Hitler birthed this movement, himself. It was an anti-Semitic movement, hardly supported by the Jewish scriptures. The Iron Cross was a military emblem, as I said.
DeleteThat Hitler came out of a Christian background, is without debate. But his use of Christian symbols and his misuse of scripture aligns themselves with nothing that any Chrisitan understands as "Christian." Certainly, there is no justification in Semitic scripture for anti-Semitic mass murder.
And how do you deal with ideology, misappropriated or not? Do you even have a clue? Well, you combat the evils of false ideology with the true application of that ideology. And that was done, with regard to Hitler's feigned "Christian ideology." Men like Paul Tillich, Karl Barth, Emil Brunner, and Dietrich Bonhoeffer, fought against Hitler's false application of "Christianity." That cannot happen, with Obama. Since he does not admit to the connection between ISIS and its false application of Islam, he cannot combat ISIS on an ideological plain and his brand of "war" against ISIS cannot succeed, because he has no idea at to what ISIS really is.
Hitler didn't use Christianity to recruit the way ISIS uses Islam. Keep perpetuating the Islamic state myth and keep feeding it.
DeleteI agree that Hitler did not use Christianity to recruit as does ISIS. I am not feeding any myth. All of the Middle East knows and admits that ISIS is an Islamic issue. ISIS fighters pray to Allah, five times a day. They study the Koran. They practice the very same violence as did the inventor of Islam, the so-called "Prophet" Muhammad. Walks like a duck, talks like a duck . . . . . .
DeleteYou are feeding the myth that ISIS represents a legitimate world religion.
DeleteOf course, your comment is untrue. I am feeding the fact that ISIS is a violent form of Islam which is very different from saying that "ISIS is Islam." How on earth did you get out of high school, with such poor reading skills? Good grief.
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