Seriously, what is "so bad" about a Jeb Bush candidacy?



Tampa Bay Times:  Jeb Bush was held up by top Republican donors today as one of the party’s best voices to champion immigration reform in the coming presidential election.

Both Mike Fernandez, a major GOP donor in Florida and longtime Bush ally, and Spencer Zwick, who was national finance chairman of Mitt Romney’s 2012 campaign, singled out Bush during a conference call this afternoon.

“Certainly Gov. Bush has decided to lead on this issue,” Zwick said, adding any candidate needs to clearly say where they are on the issue and not try to say the “most outrageous thing so that they can make national news.”

“We have to have someone who is willing to take on this issue,” he said. “We have to nominate a candidate who is willing to let action be stronger than inaction. Because as Republicans, we’ve let inaction be our model for too long."

Editor's notes:  The problem conservatives have with most who preach "comprehensive immigration reform,"  is this,  they are tired of being lied too  . . . . . .   and the Obama Administration, when it comes to transparency and lying,  is a pathological concentrate.  Sadly, and on a much less radical scale,  so too are the GOP Establishment,  Big Government, leaders.  

There are those who believe we should "pack them up and send them all,  back to Mexico or wherever."  Michele Backmann,  bless her conservative heart (seriously) is one of these leaders.  

Ain't going to happen because  . . . . . . . . . . . . .   that is impossible.  There are 12 million "illegals,"  maybe 20 million.      Ain't going to happen.  

As an aside,  have you noticed that 10 years ago the going estimate for our immigration population,  was "20 million?"  Today,  it is closer to "11 million."  Why the difference?  Because those who want open borders and amnesty,  know that "11 million" sounds much better than "20 million,"  when you are talking about all the free stuff the Dems want to give the illegals.  They control the media, and,  as a consequence,  we have quietly  been fed this revision.

While most conservatives understand this,  and,  know that the border will never be made "air tight."    Still,  they believe we must start with effective border control.   After the border problem is resolved, most conservatives I know believe we can and should  move into the debate as to what we do with those who are here.  

We can have the two considerations at the same time,  border control and the debate over the future of our in country immigrants,  but the border comes first,  out of necessity.  

And immigration futures?  Well,  I say,  "Fix the current system.  Stream line it.  Reduce the time involved in going from 'application to full blown citizenship,'  and put the current crop of immigrants behind those who have stood in line,  for years,  legally."  

Understand this:  we already have comprehensive immigration.  But,  it is slow and almost punitive,  as a process.    When it takes 10 to 15 years to become a citizen of this Once Great Nation,  that is pathetic.  The existing system,  the one we already have,  has needed serious reform since before the days of Reagan.  

Jeb Bush,  I believe,  will do the right thing in this regard, at least, per what I have heard him say:  "Border first, then reform."  I and we, agree.  

My problem with Jeb, and, the whole famn damily is this,  they are compassionate Big Government types.  They differ from the Radical Progressives in their willingness to acknowledge God, and the critical importance of Constitutional process and Constitutional allegiance.  But,  they (Hebert Walk,  G.W. and Jeb) are all believers in a robust and growing Federal Government.  

Jeb,  for an example,  favors keeping the Department of Education, and,  in fact, giving it more power as he pushes for Common Core and a nationalized standard for local school systems.  His father helped initiate the Project 21 agenda (a scheme that moves "country folk" into the 'big city" by hook or crook) and G.W. approved of the Ru 486 abortion pill,  and,  supported the fantasy that the "poor deserve to own their own homes" (ala "Affordable Housing,"  a socialistic policy that,  in the end,  gave us the 2008 financial collapse).  

Me?  I say,  "It is time we came out of the Bush,  and into the modern era,  a time when conservative values serve both the hard working  population and the poor/uneducated citizenship,  where  God is allowed if not followed,  and the size and very scope of Central Planning is given a "course correction."  That is what I want for this nation,  and there are millions and millions who have similar beliefs.  

Having said all of the above,  I do believe with the criticism that the GOP has been a party of  "do nothings,"  for far too long.  If Jeb was the GOP's presidential candidate,  I would vote for him,  but only because he is not a One Worlder   . . . . . .  and that may be a big deal,  in the months and years to come. 
 

10 comments:

  1. Go Jeb.

    hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_presidential_race.html

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  2. I used to think Jeb was smart, educated, with good values. Not so much anymore...
    Keeping with the GOP war on education, he condemned public education systems as “government-run, unionized monopolies.” Funny, we don't hear republicans condemning other public services like fire and police departments that are every bit if not more so government run unionized entities.
    Surprising since, unlike Walker, Bush is educated. Walker, on the other hand wants to cripple his state University system with a $300 million cut... which, according to the chancellor of the University of Wisconsin amount to the elimination of the school of nursing, and the law school, the business school, the pharmacy school, and the school of veterinary medicine ... and then some.

    There used to be a time where both parties used to compete to see which side could support education more. Not anymore. The GOP stands to gain better traction in an environment where people are uneducated, and that is obvious when you look at the strong Red States and their relative educational attainment ranking.

    It is unbelievable that this is happening while American kids fall further behind the rest of the world in math and science. In mathematics, 29 nations outperformed the US by a statistically significant margin, up from 23 three years ago. In science, 22 nations scored above the U.S. average, up from 18 in 2009.

    What is wrong with these people? Why isn't education valued? America's greatness is at stake. Don't vote for the party of stupid.

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    1. How many none college grads in the GOP are waging the fantasy "war on education?" Certainly not Scott Walker, He is college educated. Certainly not myself, my doctor son or my lawyer son or my two nurse/daughters, or my two school teaching step daughters.

      Walker is proposing cuts to the state's university system, not its lower educational world. And the cuts can be fully countered with a $5 increase in tuition, per semester.

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  3. 1) Walkers budget provides a 2 yr freeze on tuition so tuition can not be raised.

    2) Walker enacted the biggest cuts to education in WI state history, a $1.2 billion in reductions included $792 million in direct state aid to kindergarten-through-12th grade schools. Proof:
    http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2012/feb/19/kathleen-falk/recall-candidate-kathleen-falk-says-governor-scott/

    3) College dropouts, no matter how successful, aren't considered college educated. Would you like a medical school drop out performing surgery on you?

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    1. 1. The article you quoted goes on to fact check the numbers in the article, and found them to be “false or mostly false.” Why you decided to misrepresent that article tells us all that you are not concerned with the truth, but only in winning the debate as you hope that folks like me will not read your references. Or, maybe you were just too busy calling me names in your unpublished comment, names you would not get out of your mouth if standing face to face.
      2. As to your second point: you try to create a vocational equivalency between a heart surgeon and the Presidency, arguing for an educational background as to each vocation.

      Look, if I have a choice on who will operate on my heart, a young doctor who graduated at the top of his class but has just finished his four year internship, or a 30 year doctor finished in the middle of his class, I am going with the old fellow. Why? Because experience trumps formal education, every time. Further, a heart surgeon cannot practice General Medicine without further qualification. Point? Because the doctor has medical background, he is limited in what specialty he can practice.

      The presidency, on the other hand, does not require educational degrees, as you well know. If a heart surgeon cannot practice General Medicine, why can a lawyer serve as a corporate head? The fact of the matter is this: Obama has no educational training in climate science, corporate management, international trade, the principles of national finance management (he can’t even write a budget proposal, failing in four efforts, those four budgets presented to Congress scored a total of 1026 no votes to two “yes” votes. Three of his budgets failed 97 to 0, 99 – 0 in the Senate, and 414 to 0 in the House.). Clearly he is grossly unqualified, but, hey, there he is. I will bet you this: Scott Walker nor GW Bush ever wrote a budget submission that failed to win votes within their own political party.

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    2. Re Walker's two year freeze: his budget proposal is for fiscal year 15/16, and 16/ 17 ending in September of 2017. So, year after next, the current restrictions on University tuition, a Democrat invention, will come to an end.

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    3. In other words, only one school year is affected.

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  4. He also fails reading comprehension. Bottom line from the article:

    What makes the Walker cuts stand out is the combination -- in the same budget -- of reductions across the three levels of education: kindergarten-12th grade; tech colleges; and the universities.

    Our conclusion

    Falk claimed Walker’s cuts in state support to local schools, tech colleges and public universities amount to the largest in state history.

    We found previous cuts in those areas, but not in all three in the same year, and not nearly as deep when you roll them all together as has Falk.

    We rate her statement True.

    Read that again: Scott Walker enacted "the biggest cuts to education in our state’s history." - TRUE

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    1. Individually, each of the three venues receiving cuts in the in the 2012/2013 fiscal year, were large by comparison, but not the largest in history. Only if you roll them all together, do you have a comparatively large cut . . . . . . . an accounting trick to make Walker look bad. In reality, the cuts were not a bad thing. Since these target cuts were put into place, Wisconsin schools have seen better class sizes, fewer teacher layoffs, and property taxes kept in check. Most importantly educational opportunities for students were the best they have been in a decade. Keep in mind that when Walker took office, the State was deep in debt and getting worse by the year.

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