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Except for the comments of the Editor, below, all of the following comes from Life News, here:
After massive public backlash, Democrats have put God back in their platform, but it took three votes on the floor of the Democratic convention to do so. Delegates booed and shouted down the idea as Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa of Los Angeles is seen clearly confused about how to handle the vote when so many Democrats refused to support the idea.
VILLARAIGOSA: I…I guess…
WOMAN: You gotta [unclear] and then let them do what they’re gonna do.
VILLARAIGOSA: I’ll do that one more time. All those delegates in favor say ‘aye.’ All those delegates opposed say ‘no.’ In the opinion of the chair, two-thirds have voted in the affirmative, the motion is adopted, and the platform has been amended as shown on the screen.
[Understand that Villaraigosa was conducting a vote to reinstate the use of "God" in the Progressives' socialist/Marxist inspired platform. The amendment to reinstate "God" was actually voted down in voice vote, from the floor. Of course, party leadership had excluded "God." Now, because of fear of a national backlash, they wanted to put those words back into the platform. The amendment failed in two floor votes, and actually failed on the third try, but Vllaraigosa (the Mayor of L.A), pronounced for the change, and the Democrat leadership, godless as they really are, saved themselves from national criticism as they forced the return of "God" into their party's platform. Make no mistake, the progressives of today are, Marxist in terms of ideology and Marxism is based on a thing called "dialectical materialism." While Marx or Engles had no clue as to how to properly use the word "dialectic," their use of the term "dialectical materialism," by these two morons, was designed to pit the "fantasies" of religion against the so-called reality found in the physical, material world. Clearly, this is where the progressive movement has gone - a devolution of morals and values based on a defunked [communist} manifesto published by Karl Marx. Point of post? I do not want anyone to forget this bit of atheistic nonsense and the fact that the Democrat Party is not the party in which I held membership until, but after, Jimmy Carter. Carter was my last presidential vote as a Democrat. What has happened within this party, is the reason I am now a conservative Independent. ~ the Editor]
Following the vote, Debbie Wasserman Schultz tweeted and claimed, “The platform is being amended to maintain consistency with the personal views expressed by the prez…”
Schultz said the platform was changed to “maintain consistency with the personal views expressed by the president and in the Democratic Party platform in 2008. Jerusalem is and will remain the capital of Israel. The parties have agreed that Jerusalem is a matter for final status negotiations. It should remain an undivided city accessible to people of all faiths.”
AP indicates President Barack Obama personally intervened to change the Democrat platform language on including God.
But, according to Politico, “Obama had seen the language prior to the convention, a campaign source said, but did not seek to change it until after Republicans jumped on the omissions of God and Jerusalem late Wednesday.”
And less than 24 hours ago, White House spokesman Ben LaBolt, according to reporter David Freddoso, said, “The platform represents the inclusiveness of the party…and represents the president’s positions and vision.”
Before the debacle, Mitt Romney said the removal of any reference to God in the initial 2012 version of the platform “suggests a party which is increasingly out of touch with the mainstream of American people. I think this party is veering further and further away to an extreme wing that Americans don’t recognize it.”
Yesterday, Democrats approved a platform removing any mention of God from their party platform, dropping language from the 2008 version that at least had a passing reference to the Creator whom the founders of the nation explained grants the rights we enjoy.
Eagle-eyed reporter David Brody of CBN News discovered the omission.
“Guess what? God’s name has been removed from the Democratic National Committee platform,” he wrote. “The Brody File has calls into DNC to explain why God’s name has been dropped from the platform. Some critics will suggest that when you have planks in your platform that support abortion rights and gay marriage then it’s no wonder that God’s name would be dropped as well.”
This is the paragraph that was in the 2008 platform:“We need a government that stands up for the hopes, values, and interests of working people, and gives everyone willing to work hard the chance to make the most of their God-given potential.”Now the words “God-given” have been removed. The paragraph has been restructured to say this:“We gather to reclaim the basic bargain that built the largest middle class and the most prosperous nation on Earth – the simple principle that in America, hard work should pay off, responsibility should be rewarded, and each one of us should be able to go as far as our talent and drive take us.”
There is a definite correlation between religiosity and education. The most educated, especially in scientific fields tend to be the least superstitious, least subject to believing in supernatural forces and traditional religious concepts. (Einstein, Bohr, Hawking, Sagan, etc...) The Non-religious are the fastest growing segment of the US. The number of these Americans has grown by 25% just in the past five years, (Pew Research 10/12).
ReplyDeleteSince the US is a religious society, (and ranked only 18th among nations in college educational attainment,) politicians from day one had to profess their religious beliefs to be elected. We've had every segment of society elected... gays, minorities, even Muslims; but it remains about impossible for an openly atheist politician to be elected, especially on a national level. That is why they have to 'walk the walk' and espouse religious beliefs. From the time of Jefferson, to the present day, our most intelligent leaders have espoused religious beliefs while privately, often posthumously, we find what they really believed in their private communications.
If trends continue, secular leaders will no longer have to cower as a truly oppressed minority and we will have a more unified America and world. We won't have to keep quite about the "Emperors new suit".
This fallacy that all good, compassion, and kindness comes from a supernatural force is self serving the institutions that promote it. They are multi billion dollar businesses and tax evaders. They will insidiously try to indoctrinate as many people as possible, destroy critical thinking, pedal bogus revisionist history, and refute solidly proven scientific concepts... not in the interest of a strong America. The same religious conservatives who think that kindness and compassion comes from god are the first to turn a blind eye to US killing of innocents, unnecessary wars, corporate greed, capitalism at the expense of the poor, and the environment. Religious conservatives like GW Bush walk hand in hand with human rights violators and religious fundamentalists like the Saudis because of oil and money. No principles. Utmost hypocrisy.
In order to defeat the truly evil Muslim fundamentalists, it can not be done under the flag of Christianity or any other religion. The world needs a coalition of secular responsible and compassionate nations to rise up and isolate this scourge. It is only when the divisiveness of religion is done away with, that people can live in unity.
Humanity must evolve quite a bit before that will happen. Belief in God is NOT an impediment to peace and unity. But we must respect everyone's interpretation of god, or lack thereof, as long as it doesn't harm others. As Bahá’u’lláh, a believer in God, wrote, "The well-being of mankind, its peace and security, are unattainable unless and until its unity is firmly established."
Unity can not be established with religions that divide, enable wrong doing, or push clearly false information. Traditional and fundamentalist views of religion tend to do these things.
In order to defeat the truly evil Muslim fundamentalists, it can not be done under the flag of Christianity or any other religion. The world needs a coalition of secular responsible and compassionate nations to rise up and isolate this scourge. It is only when the divisiveness of religion is done away with, that people can live in unity. . . . so says you. Jihad was and is borne of a secular society.
ReplyDeleteHumanity must evolve . . . . evolution is not the product of design, moron. It is supposedly birthed of happen-stance and survival of the fittest.
Unity can not be established with religions that divide . . . . And you all have done such a great job of uniting mankind. You've only had millions of years to get it right. Ain't never going to happen (peace and unity) whether we do it your way, via faith and values or whatever. Man will ALWAYS be a victim of his own lusts, desires and selfish ambition; true through history and true to the end of our earthly times.
Man will ALWAYS be a victim of his own lusts, desires and selfish ambition; true through history and true to the end of our earthly times. - I tend to agree with this pessimistic view, at least in our lifetimes.
ReplyDeleteIf mankind is to survive, we must unite. Religion is inherently divisive, except for the Bahai faith which is inclusive.
People become so invested in religion, their ego will not permit them to believe they could be mistaken, or that another religious concept different from their own could be valid.
You write: "People become so invested in religion, their ego will not permit them to believe they could be mistaken," Nothing you have written up until now describes you in better terms.
DeleteAs far as Bahai is concerned, it is a modern-day invention, a faith whose tenants, for the most part, you deny. Bahai is anti-homosexual, believes in the virgin birth of Jesus, and believes in life after death - none of which is in your wheel house. A world without religion would look like N Korea or China. You apparently like that circumstance. Me? I think it demonstrates the innate failure of man without God in Christ. What is funny about your thiking is this: you actually believe in "nothing," and think that "nothing" is the solution to man's ills.
Divisive.
DeleteAn atheist member of the U.S. Air Force has been told he must swear “so help me God” as part of his military oath or else he will be forced to leave the service, the Air Force Times reports.
It’s worth noting that the U.S. Constitution – the one the military supports and defends, and which trumps Defense Department regulations and forms – says quite explicitly that “no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.”
Christians feel constitutional law doesn't apply to them and they can discriminate. The American Family Association’s Bryan Fischer said, “There is no place in the United States military for those who do not believe in the Creator.”
Divisive,
As I said, belief in god is not an impediment to unity, except the repeatedly demonstrated fact that believers can't help themselves.... their ego and self righteousness always results in trying to assert and promote themselves over those who believe differently. They just can't help it. It goes along with what we agreed: Man will ALWAYS be a victim of his own lusts, desires and selfish ambition. The religious are no exception.
The Emperor has no clothes...
Deletehttp://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/09/archbishop-of-canterbury-admits-doubts-about-existence-of-god/
He also believes in a meritorious system of salvation . . . . about as far off base as one can get. Maybe that is why he has doubts. . . . . but, then again, what are doubts if not thoughts very different from "denials of." Once again, you have proven nothing.
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