Here is the real problem with the current health care proposal (there is no actual health care bill )

Midknight Review says "At this stage in the game, its all pork as far as we are concerned."

There are two issues:

1. There is a difference between including Republican ideas and asking Republicans to help write the reform bill. The GOP (in the House) has been locked out of the writing sessions. This is not anyone's definition of "bipartisan" and as soon as the Libs lose power, they will agree.

2. Cost. The cost of the health care reform proposed by the Libs is not being addressed in an honest and transparent manner. I.e., did you that the $950 billion touted as the cost is not the total cost?

Add to this %950 billion price tag the following:

$371 billion for the "doctor fix" ( a reimbursement to the doctors for proposed cuts !! - yes, we cut their pay in Medicare "management" and give it back to them in another bill)

$1.1 trillion hidden in the Stimulus bill funding the 15 member health care review board and its staff and related health care matters.

$ 500 billion in interest payments over the course of the first ten years.

$496 billion in Medicare cuts not yet detailed. There is no reason to believe that these cuts will be made. This is simply a make-believe number designed to off set cost for the purpose of argument. Three years ago, under Bush, there was an effort to cut $82 billion from Medicare . . . result? Not one red cent hit the cutting room floor.

Total cost for the first ten years: $3.317 billion. Add $2.5 trillion for the second ten year period. Keep in mind that the first ten year period sees only 4 years of cost - the health care bill will not go into effect until 2016.

Add to this financial lie the fact that the Dems are working on another proposal to be released on Wednesday ----------- that's four version; a 2400 page Senate bill, a 2100 page House bill, an 11 page summary proposal used by Obama for the "Summit," and now, we eagerly wait for another bill.

This last proposal will have some of the GOP suggestions written into the language of the bill. But this pathetic effort at "bipartisanship" (allow some of their ideas but for Gawd's sake, don't let them have a roll in writing the bill) is over-shadowed by the total cost of the bill -- it will break the bank.

Understand this - Social Security was voted in using the same lying process, promises of a 1 % payroll deduction cap that was violated within two years. Now, Social Security stands in with 39 trillion in unfunded liabilities and the Baby Boomers are coming !!! Medicaid comes in at 18 trillion in unfunded liabilities. All told, Government mandated programs have accumulated between $78 trillion and $130 trillion in unfunded liabilities - Midknight Review cannot find a consensus total on " unfunded liabilities " except for the opinion that it is more than the total worth of our Nation's economy.

What we mean to say is this, if we sold everything we could get our hands on, government buildings, factories, Federal lands and so on, the total value is somewhere around $60 trillion (according the FoxNewsBusiness). We owe more than our collective and corporate worth !!!

Any proposed spending is or should be a criminal matter -- jds.
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