MSNBC gets his pegoratives handed to him by Carly Fiorina

Matthews: “Do you really think that’s a way to engage in a debate? To call your opponent a liar? I’m astounded by that judgment.

Editor's notes:  I am wondering how many times Chris Matthews has used the word "liar" as he pretends to be above the fray in his interview with Fiorina. 

Florina: First of all I was very specific about the subjects about which I think she has lied. I didn’t say she lied about everything. I was very specific. Very fact based, actually. You are the one who has made a generalized comment now about her. Not me. Secondly, I will debate her. Excuse me. Secondly, secondly, I will debate her —

Editor:  Carly first ignores his question.

Matthews: Go through your list. Go through your list of where she’s lied.

Editor:  Matthews continues in his effort to control the interview in asking a second time,  Carly answers without giving up control of the interview,  by listing three Clinton lies and quickly moving into a debate challenge to Hillary.    

Fiorina: Benghazi, email and server.

I will debate her on the issues facing this nation. I will debate her on her positions. I will ask her, for example, how she can possibly continue to defend Planned Parenthood. I will ask her why she continues to say she is a champion of the middle class, while every single proposal she has put forward makes crony capitalism worse and worse and worse which makes income inequality worse. I would ask her why she declared victory in Iraq in 2011. Why she called Bashar al-Assad a positive reformer. Why she thought she could stop Vladimir Putin, a man I have met, with a gimmicky button. I will ask why she got every policy wrong as secretary of state. that’s how I’ll debate her. On the issues.