paste up to this point - 3/9/10
Yesterday morning, the news was all about Bart Stupack (Representative out of Michigan) allowing for a compromise on the abortion issue. Turns out that is not true. Stupack was interviewed on Fox and Friends. He answered "no" when asked if he had agreed to compromise language.
Understand that this business of "negotiations" regarding the Senate bill in the House is being misunderstood. Midknight Review thinks the Democrats are at an impasse with regard to the health care bill. We believe it is highly unlikely that a bill will be approved this year. Here is why.
The legislative process is not without rules and procedures in spite of the Dems threat to use Reconciliation to finish the job of health care approval. Each house of congress, the Senate and the House of Representatives, pass bills of a similar interest. In this case, the House finished their bill and sent it to the Senate where the Senate made changes to that bill and voted approval with 60 votes. In the House bill, Bart Stupack had negotiated changes that prevented the use of Federal funds for abortions. A warning accompanied the House bill as it went to the Senate -- "Do not change the abortion language approved in the House or we will reject the bill."
The abortion zealots in the Senate disregarded that warning and changed the language, anyway. The bill [finally] passed the floor vote in the Senate (60 votes - all happening before the Dems lost Ted Kennedy's seat to Scott Brown) and is now in the House of Representatives.
And here is the legislative process issue: If the House makes changes, any changes, to the Senate bill and approves that bill, it must go back to the Senate for a 60 vote approval. The Dems no longer have a 60 vote majority. If the House approves the Senate bill as it is now written, the legislative process is over. Both houses would have approved the same identical wording. The bill then goes to the "President" for his signature.
Stupack and 11 other Representatives are not prepared to accept the abortion wording in the Senate bill and if that remains the case, health care is dead for this year. This business of Reconciliation can only be used on actual laws - bill approved by both houses and signed by the President.
So what are "they" negotiating? A promise to pass legislation, after the fact, that will correct the abortion wording in the current proposition. The powers that be are telling the pro-life Democrats in the House, "Trust us, we will make the change you want in another and different bill. Forget that the House and the Senate must agree on THAT language. We will get it done. We promise."
Apparently, this is something Rep. Stupack is not prepared to accept. And who would, what with Obama's abuse of promise after promise after promise. What tells us there is a serious problem is this: the "presidential" deadline of March 18 is not going to work. House members are telling us, this morning, that "such deadlines are counter productive." Talk of this nature nearly always means the particular deadline will not work.
This is not the first time lead comments have been put out as a preface to failure. The first deadline for health care was mid-July. The second deadline was just before the August break (remember those tea parties and townhall meetings ?). The third deadline was December the 24th. The fourth deadline was before Scott Brown won the Ted Kennedy seat - killing the Democrat "super majority." And now, we have a fifth deadline - March 18.
March 18 is important because that will be the beginning of the Easter break. Congress goes home ----------------------------------- to more demonstrations and complaints.
This is really humorous. The Dems had enough representatives in both houses to get anything done they wanted, without a single vote from the Republicans and what did they do? Spend money and nothing more.
It's like watching a football game where only one team shows up and still loses the game !!! Seriously. What a bunch of incompetent boobs -- jds.
What do we know for certain with regard to healthcare? Pelosi does not have the votes. You can bet the second she does, there will be an emergency session. She will call for a vote so fast, it will make your head spin. Conclusion? Again - the votes are not there. THAT is what we know for sure !! He he he !
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